I do not plan further language version Unfortunately there is a huge amout of texts in the game. And translating it (with good quality) take hundereds of hours. And similar request didn't work (people after seeing part of the text didn't responde back). And when I made some exercise professional translation it cost about 25 000 Euro. And of course there is a matter of updates which introduced new text with every version
I hope this isn't a dumb question but out of curiosity, can I add new creators offline? So if I wanted to make my own set of actors just for a personal game?
Hi! Are you planning to add Russian? I have a YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/@BanalnoeTV), if there is a russifier, I will be happy to review your game
What do you mean by Russian? Language? No, no other language is planned too many texts are in the game. So to complex to add text if you do no know the language on proper level... still for professional translation it is simply too costly for free game.
Tomiga, how can i use good relations with creators to decrease their salary? I red about that in some of your posts, that they can ask little if they like the script and have good relation with you. But when i call them and invite - they just take regular salary as if i select them in main list of creators...
When you select cast to your production some of the creators has yellow background. That means they due to various reasons (mainly prestige but not only) they not want to cooperate with you. That is why they want higher salary then usual (this is "negotiation part"). This yellow part depends also on relation with given creator. (there are more things which is important but relation is taken into account) so it may happen that if you have lower prestige but good relation they will go from yellow to white rank. Still if they are in yellow zone if you got better relation the negotiated salary is smaller. Other places where relations are taken into account (still here mainly positive/negative has impact)
"It seems that X may be interested in one of the motifs in the scenario 'Y'. Do you want to offer cooperation?"
After such question person still may reject cooperation even if motive is interested for him (but your relations are bad).
Other places
- Send role offer to person for cast in script
- Various recommendation of friends (or friends of friends) also checks the relations
How many antivirus files has pass without any problem I think there 2 which treat it as unsafe... out of 50 or 70? Check some comments below how antivirus software works and what is false positive, what it is heuristic and why you need to know how to interpret this result...
Ok some clarification. The installation file is named: BF2Setup.exe and this is valid file.
It come from Biznes Filmowy 2 Setup (which is original - Polish name of the game so that is why BF2Setup). Yes you may encounter some warning about dangerous file from browser (e.g MS Edge) as all not signed with certificate exe files had similar warning. File is save no issue with it.
You mean you want to play over internet vie web browser?
Unfortunately there were no such plans or to say it other words I was thinking about it but I have no time to make it web based (need to learn modern technology and implement it - huge effort :(
Thank you for clearing that up I suppose currently working on the game is much more important and learning the tech required could delay future updates which well no one would like atleast I hope no one will like
There is some discussion below about this topic which you can read but... again short answer
If you want to play with "main game" (I understand you mean Party Mode). You need to create account in the game and MovieStats. By this after the game is finished your best movies will be exported to MovieStats. They will be then comparable with movies of other players. So statement that this is single player game and not affect other players is not exactly truth.
Solution. If you want to use cheat codes you can make donation on Bronze level. This will enable to you possibility to use cheat codes in Party game (but after using first cheat code which is related to cash export of the movies to MovieStats will be blocked so it will not affect Online BoxOffice in MovieStats).
Currently it is incremental development. Each year brings new Edition with new features. So the game is still developed.
This is huge project (currently it has over 30 000 of text inside the game) and probably 10 times more line of codes... By sequel I understand you want the game to be rewritten from scratch... unfortunately it is effort for few years and I will just do not have such amount of free time to do it.
I had information about false positive cases from some users which uses different antivirus software.
Personally I use Windows Defender (which is quite good and up to date tool). I didn't got any information about viruses found in newest release. It happen in past that also Windows Defender raise some virus detection but I report my application to Microsoft they checked it and made update for Windows Defender to no report problem with it.
In general detection of viruses in different antivirus tools are done by heuristic algorithms. They try to "predict" if given part of code can be virus. Often it happen that it leads to warning which in fact are not viruses (that is called "false positive").
Of course if you afraid to install it do not do it.
From my side I can only said that if you got game from reliable source (where I put personally my game: which are itch.io / IndieDB / GamesJolt) it should not contains viruses.
It is false positive. The install file has been checked with many antivius tools and most of them do not detect any problem. You can see the report in below link (even Microsoft Defender has no problem with it)
Sometimes some antivirus software detects problem with unpopular application (which were not installed on thouseds of PCc). As they based on heuristic (simply saying guessing) they often makes false reports. By default windows suspect not popular program which are not digitally signed as this appp. Unfortunately signing which makes application safe from OS point of view is possible only for companies (as Movie Business is hobby project even if I would paid for certificate it will not be granted for private person).
From my side I can only says that few thousands of persons already installed latest version and they didn't get any problems.
But of course I totally understand that you may be scared with this install. If you have any doubts do not install it.
UPDATE: I reported it to Microsoft to check once again new version by them.
I was starting to use VirusTotal (nice tool by the way) and I would give you some hint how to interpret results (as you misinterpret it). VirusTotal uses one engine to check the file against many different antivirus tools. If during the checking it fails on some antivirus software it doesn't mean that the virus is inside. In case of BF2Setup indeed 2 of the AV software detect some problems (I have never hear about it before). But 62 other (with known names as Microsoft, Kaspersky, Symantec, McAfee) didn't found any problem.
Why those 2 has detected some problems? Because of they algorithm which is used to do heuristic (which in fact is guessinng). I do not know which algorithm is used for particular antivirus but I read on some dev forums some radiculitis rules like if code consist File.Exist method used it is marked as virus/malware/trojan/dangerous app.
The problem is that this is basic method which is used when you program application which uses files... in other case if file will not exist application crashes (you need to handle such cases in the code). If such rules are used that means that almost all programs will be treated as virus. And for such "antivirus" you have to be very skeptical.
So it is necessary to understand the result and use common sens when interpreting results of antivirus software.
I am not really movie fans, but this game is really attractive to me. So i like a tycoon game, and Movie Business 2 really satisfy my tycoon desires.
This game interface might a bit lacking, but the depth of the game is so addictive. I really enjoy making a movie script and experiment with different motives to match with the actors. And the randomness of the result is what makes it so fun.
And the funny thing is the movie titles does not always match the real ones, sometimes i laughed at the movie generated by the AI
This is a great game, also i need to ask how do you use a scout talent?
Too much hassle with making it compatible with steam (I have never done it and number of hours to make it is not worth it) and there is too many copyrighted content in the game (photos of real person, real names, real film titles etc) which I would have to remove/replace... if you like the game you can still make donation...
I love the game, but why the fuck do you have to block cheat engine? I hate developers who don't let players play how they want, as it is usually them just going out of their way to be a dick
All cheat codes can be used only Quick Game... why long story... trophies, profiles, moviestatats would make no sense when if cheat modes were enabled in all games modes... and that is the reason that exists different game modes... to support different play styles.
Update: From edition 2020 cheat codes can be used also by donators (Bronze level) in Party Mode.
Agreed. This is an ongoing trend where devs connect career modes in games to an online leaderboard/trophy system where your progress and stats are compared against other players. Essentially, it has become an 'online' career mode. I don't care about trophies and leaderboards online with other people playing. The true 'offline' career mode experience is a dying breed. The solution would be to have both an online career mode with trophies/stats and an offline career mode where cheats and experimentation can be used to the player's content. Unfortunately, the offline game modes are being scratched in favor of online modes where you're constantly being compared with other players and unable to use cheats as a result. Not everyone wants to be online... bring offline back - and no, i'm not talking about party mode or quick mode or any of that bs. Rant over.
Could you explain me what is the point to use cheats in Career Mode in a way how this mode is designed in Movie Business?
The games in old days were created to compete... where no online mode where possible Hall of Fame or Top Scores was the way to make competition (to beat your best score - so compete with yourself). Career is some kind of challenge. There is no point to use there cheat codes as this is against the main design purpose of these mode.
Let me explain briefly the modes in Movie Business.
Quick Game - this is sandbox where you can do whatever you want all cheat codes are enabled. No online stats so no need to compete. The only restriction is shorter game time (as there is no point to make it longer as cheat codes are enabled and game algorithms will not survive the strategies to fill up cash every round (as some players do).
Party Game - here you can choose if you want to play with standard approach (without cheat codes) and your films will be exported to MovieStats service. Or (if you are Donator) you will use cheat codes and your result will be no exported.
Career Mode - these mode is for those who want to have some challenge. No cheat codes allowed as this is against the principle of this mode. You just check you skills in the game.
So as you can see Movie Business provides different type of game for different player... whatever is your style you should be able to find something for you.
And the most important thing. The online stats is not only for player... it is for creators. To check how games behave in different situations, is there any problem with balance, which strategies works and which do not work. It is just big data to analyse to make game better.
This is very important for the game development especially such as Movie Business created by one person after hours... who do not have test division to test all possible scenarios.
Please note that this is quite unique project... you will not find hundreds games like Movie Business (I am not talking about tycoons in general but about games about movie creation) and even commercial one do not have a lot of features which you can find here...
Games like this in the old days were not designed the same way as this current trend. Hollywood Mogul always gave you the freedom to set up your career save the way you wanted. I'm also guessing you never used 'motherlode' in The Sims, huh? It exists to this day. The point is that not everyone who plays 'tycoon' style games wants to compete in an online leaderboard. Thanks for your non-answer though. Your free to make the game as you want. We're just giving a different viewpoint. Thank you.
i love the game if there was one suggestion i would give. I love to test and develop by using the cheats and or cheat engine and i'm being punished for doing so? I started the game and attempted to you the browser cheat and was granted with it was too early? I think thats a bit unfair it being a singleplayer i should have the right to play according to my own taste. Outside of that great game.
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Worth 500 PHP or 10 USD, but I am broke. So, if I can download it for free, I'll download it for free.
what engine or framework is this made with?
I wish you update the UI and make it much modern
do you plan to add tv series ? It will be great feature
No such plan... yes great but very big (almost like new game)
Hey tomiga Iam welling to translate this game into arabic
just send me game texts and I will translate it
I do not plan further language version Unfortunately there is a huge amout of texts in the game. And translating it (with good quality) take hundereds of hours. And similar request didn't work (people after seeing part of the text didn't responde back). And when I made some exercise professional translation it cost about 25 000 Euro. And of course there is a matter of updates which introduced new text with every version
Thanks for your reply
and i have problem running the game with wine in linux it says error something related to fontfamily
I hope this isn't a dumb question but out of curiosity, can I add new creators offline? So if I wanted to make my own set of actors just for a personal game?
You can create your own set. But you cannot extend default one offline.
http://tomiga.linuxpl.info/wp/pomoc/rozpoczecie-gry/tworcy-i-zestawy-tworcow/?la...
Hi! Are you planning to add Russian? I have a YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/@BanalnoeTV), if there is a russifier, I will be happy to review your game
What do you mean by Russian? Language? No, no other language is planned too many texts are in the game. So to complex to add text if you do no know the language on proper level... still for professional translation it is simply too costly for free game.
Dude, you're awesome! Thank you so much for this game. I never seen something like that... 0_0
Thanks nice to hear that you like it.
Tomiga, how can i use good relations with creators to decrease their salary? I red about that in some of your posts, that they can ask little if they like the script and have good relation with you. But when i call them and invite - they just take regular salary as if i select them in main list of creators...
When you select cast to your production some of the creators has yellow background. That means they due to various reasons (mainly prestige but not only) they not want to cooperate with you. That is why they want higher salary then usual (this is "negotiation part"). This yellow part depends also on relation with given creator. (there are more things which is important but relation is taken into account) so it may happen that if you have lower prestige but good relation they will go from yellow to white rank. Still if they are in yellow zone if you got better relation the negotiated salary is smaller.
Other places where relations are taken into account (still here mainly positive/negative has impact)
"It seems that X may be interested in one of the motifs in the scenario 'Y'. Do you want to offer cooperation?"
After such question person still may reject cooperation even if motive is interested for him (but your relations are bad).
Other places
- Send role offer to person for cast in script
- Various recommendation of friends (or friends of friends) also checks the relations
Thank you!
Virus total says that is Unsafe
How many antivirus files has pass without any problem I think there 2 which treat it as unsafe... out of 50 or 70? Check some comments below how antivirus software works and what is false positive, what it is heuristic and why you need to know how to interpret this result...
I got it I don't know much about that thats the main reason why I came here to ask I will install the game thanks!
i tried to dowload and windowns 10 google let me install but windowns told me that was dangerous
It will alwyas tell you that it is dangerous as this is exe file... all exe files not digitally signed a treated as dangerous.
Ok I will install later thanks for your time!
its not downloading. its downloading something els
instead its downloading some starter. and the last time something did this i got malware... so i am not downloading this
what kind of malware you got... everyday a lot of people download the game without any issue
Ok some clarification.
The installation file is named: BF2Setup.exe and this is valid file.
It come from Biznes Filmowy 2 Setup (which is original - Polish name of the game so that is why BF2Setup).
Yes you may encounter some warning about dangerous file from browser (e.g MS Edge) as all not signed with certificate exe files had similar warning.
File is save no issue with it.
Played this game about two years ago, couldn't find it when I got a new computer. I found it now and I swear I couldn't be happier.
Will the game ever have browser support? Btw the game is great
Thanks.
You mean you want to play over internet vie web browser?
Unfortunately there were no such plans or to say it other words I was thinking about it but I have no time to make it web based (need to learn modern technology and implement it - huge effort :(
Thank you for clearing that up I suppose currently working on the game is much more important and learning the tech required could delay future updates which well no one would like atleast I hope no one will like
sry if I sound sarcastic
I'm in love with your game! Do you have in mind to add more awards shows in the future?
Thanks. Concerning the awards there is no such plans and from gameplay design perspective it didn't bring any additional value.
You can read a bit more about it in FAQ section on Official Game Site
http://tomiga.linuxpl.info/wp/faq/35-2/?lang=en#8
There is some discussion below about this topic which you can read but... again short answer
If you want to play with "main game" (I understand you mean Party Mode). You need to create account in the game and MovieStats. By this after the game is finished your best movies will be exported to MovieStats. They will be then comparable with movies of other players. So statement that this is single player game and not affect other players is not exactly truth.
Solution. If you want to use cheat codes you can make donation on Bronze level. This will enable to you possibility to use cheat codes in Party game (but after using first cheat code which is related to cash export of the movies to MovieStats will be blocked so it will not affect Online BoxOffice in MovieStats).
hey don't u think you should make a sequel to this game?
It is already sequel ;) - Movie Business 2
Currently it is incremental development. Each year brings new Edition with new features. So the game is still developed.
This is huge project (currently it has over 30 000 of text inside the game) and probably 10 times more line of codes... By sequel I understand you want the game to be rewritten from scratch... unfortunately it is effort for few years and I will just do not have such amount of free time to do it.
BTW Why do you need sequel?
Hey, there is 2 trojans in it. If you could fix it I can finally play the game without any fear lol
What kind of trojans and which program have reported it? My antivirus software didn't rise any alarms. And I got info about false positive cases.
I used a site called VirusTotal but there was only one report, so I don't know if you know what happened
I had information about false positive cases from some users which uses different antivirus software.
Personally I use Windows Defender (which is quite good and up to date tool). I didn't got any information about viruses found in newest release. It happen in past that also Windows Defender raise some virus detection but I report my application to Microsoft they checked it and made update for Windows Defender to no report problem with it.
You can read it in dedicated post of forum
In general detection of viruses in different antivirus tools are done by heuristic algorithms. They try to "predict" if given part of code can be virus. Often it happen that it leads to warning which in fact are not viruses (that is called "false positive").
Of course if you afraid to install it do not do it.
From my side I can only said that if you got game from reliable source (where I put personally my game: which are itch.io / IndieDB / GamesJolt) it should not contains viruses.
Thanks for feedback.
hey, I’m using the windows defender and it says that the new version has a Trojan. Can you please fix it?
It is false positive. The install file has been checked with many antivius tools and most of them do not detect any problem. You can see the report in below link (even Microsoft Defender has no problem with it)
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/330232770292eb4b316726c2636fdde08ee3b83c891b...
Sometimes some antivirus software detects problem with unpopular application (which were not installed on thouseds of PCc). As they based on heuristic (simply saying guessing) they often makes false reports. By default windows suspect not popular program which are not digitally signed as this appp. Unfortunately signing which makes application safe from OS point of view is possible only for companies (as Movie Business is hobby project even if I would paid for certificate it will not be granted for private person).
From my side I can only says that few thousands of persons already installed latest version and they didn't get any problems.
But of course I totally understand that you may be scared with this install. If you have any doubts do not install it.
UPDATE: I reported it to Microsoft to check once again new version by them.
I have send it to Microsoft. And there is no problem with the file. It was rescaned and no problems was detected. Screenshot attached.
You can check it also under following url: Submission details (b3b93ea5-280a-4741-aead-927b4f8028c6) - Microsoft Security Intelligence
(but you will have to login with your Microsoft account).
Answer for Microsoft:
Analyst comments:
We have removed the detection. Please follow the steps below to clear cached detection and obtain the latest malware definitions.
1. Open command prompt as administrator and change directory to c:\Program Files\Windows Defender
2. Run “MpCmdRun.exe -removedefinitions -dynamicsignatures”
3. Run "MpCmdRun.exe -SignatureUpdate"
Alternatively, the latest definition is available for download here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/definitions Thank you for contacting Microsoft.
After performing this steps you antivirus should have no more problem with install file.
I was starting to use VirusTotal (nice tool by the way) and I would give you some hint how to interpret results (as you misinterpret it). VirusTotal uses one engine to check the file against many different antivirus tools. If during the checking it fails on some antivirus software it doesn't mean that the virus is inside. In case of BF2Setup indeed 2 of the AV software detect some problems (I have never hear about it before). But 62 other (with known names as Microsoft, Kaspersky, Symantec, McAfee) didn't found any problem.
Why those 2 has detected some problems? Because of they algorithm which is used to do heuristic (which in fact is guessinng). I do not know which algorithm is used for particular antivirus but I read on some dev forums some radiculitis rules like if code consist File.Exist method used it is marked as virus/malware/trojan/dangerous app.
The problem is that this is basic method which is used when you program application which uses files... in other case if file will not exist application crashes (you need to handle such cases in the code). If such rules are used that means that almost all programs will be treated as virus. And for such "antivirus" you have to be very skeptical.
So it is necessary to understand the result and use common sens when interpreting results of antivirus software.
I am not really movie fans, but this game is really attractive to me. So i like a tycoon game, and Movie Business 2 really satisfy my tycoon desires.
This game interface might a bit lacking, but the depth of the game is so addictive. I really enjoy making a movie script and experiment with different motives to match with the actors. And the randomness of the result is what makes it so fun.
And the funny thing is the movie titles does not always match the real ones, sometimes i laughed at the movie generated by the AI
This is a great game, also i need to ask how do you use a scout talent?
I am happy that you like the game.
Yes the interface is outdate this is fact...
The movies titles are random (apart from cult movies) and this is part of fun ...
Concerning scout talents check dev diary
https://tomiga.itch.io/movie-business-2/devlog/136925/whats-new-in-edition-2020-...
Witam, uwielbiam tą grę, zawsze co kilka miesięcy wracam do niej i topie w niej przeważnie 10h. Trzymaj się Tomiga i Pozdrawiam Games Gal.
Cieszę się że podoba Ci się gra i wciąż sprawia Ci radość :)
Pozdrawiam.
Any chance of getting this ported to mobile?
Sorry but there is no such plans... game is too complex (UI has too many information for mobile screens) and... I do not know technology
thanks for making this unique game , why don't u publish it on steam ? for few bucks ?
Too much hassle with making it compatible with steam (I have never done it and number of hours to make it is not worth it) and there is too many copyrighted content in the game (photos of real person, real names, real film titles etc) which I would have to remove/replace... if you like the game you can still make donation...
I love the game, but why the fuck do you have to block cheat engine? I hate developers who don't let players play how they want, as it is usually them just going out of their way to be a dick
All cheat codes can be used only Quick Game... why long story... trophies, profiles, moviestatats would make no sense when if cheat modes were enabled in all games modes... and that is the reason that exists different game modes... to support different play styles.
Update: From edition 2020 cheat codes can be used also by donators (Bronze level) in Party Mode.
Agreed. This is an ongoing trend where devs connect career modes in games to an online leaderboard/trophy system where your progress and stats are compared against other players. Essentially, it has become an 'online' career mode. I don't care about trophies and leaderboards online with other people playing. The true 'offline' career mode experience is a dying breed. The solution would be to have both an online career mode with trophies/stats and an offline career mode where cheats and experimentation can be used to the player's content. Unfortunately, the offline game modes are being scratched in favor of online modes where you're constantly being compared with other players and unable to use cheats as a result. Not everyone wants to be online... bring offline back - and no, i'm not talking about party mode or quick mode or any of that bs. Rant over.
Could you explain me what is the point to use cheats in Career Mode in a way how this mode is designed in Movie Business?
The games in old days were created to compete... where no online mode where possible Hall of Fame or Top Scores was the way to make competition (to beat your best score - so compete with yourself). Career is some kind of challenge. There is no point to use there cheat codes as this is against the main design purpose of these mode.
Let me explain briefly the modes in Movie Business.
Quick Game - this is sandbox where you can do whatever you want all cheat codes are enabled. No online stats so no need to compete. The only restriction is shorter game time (as there is no point to make it longer as cheat codes are enabled and game algorithms will not survive the strategies to fill up cash every round (as some players do).
Party Game - here you can choose if you want to play with standard approach (without cheat codes) and your films will be exported to MovieStats service. Or (if you are Donator) you will use cheat codes and your result will be no exported.
Career Mode - these mode is for those who want to have some challenge. No cheat codes allowed as this is against the principle of this mode. You just check you skills in the game.
So as you can see Movie Business provides different type of game for different player... whatever is your style you should be able to find something for you.
And the most important thing. The online stats is not only for player... it is for creators. To check how games behave in different situations, is there any problem with balance, which strategies works and which do not work. It is just big data to analyse to make game better.
This is very important for the game development especially such as Movie Business created by one person after hours... who do not have test division to test all possible scenarios.
Please note that this is quite unique project... you will not find hundreds games like Movie Business (I am not talking about tycoons in general but about games about movie creation) and even commercial one do not have a lot of features which you can find here...
Games like this in the old days were not designed the same way as this current trend. Hollywood Mogul always gave you the freedom to set up your career save the way you wanted. I'm also guessing you never used 'motherlode' in The Sims, huh? It exists to this day. The point is that not everyone who plays 'tycoon' style games wants to compete in an online leaderboard. Thanks for your non-answer though. Your free to make the game as you want. We're just giving a different viewpoint. Thank you.
i love the game if there was one suggestion i would give. I love to test and develop by using the cheats and or cheat engine and i'm being punished for doing so? I started the game and attempted to you the browser cheat and was granted with it was too early? I think thats a bit unfair it being a singleplayer i should have the right to play according to my own taste. Outside of that great game.
I do not think it is too big problem to play some rounds without cheats... really game is not so difficult.